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BeitragThema: change needed   01.03.13 19:42

hey guys, i went to the projected playoff brackets on the espn site.

i think that the league is setup so that the top 4 teams only make the playoffs.


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BeitragThema: Re: change needed   01.03.13 22:53

Interesting.
Let me have a peek at that this weekend.........

Good spotting.
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BeitragThema: Re: change needed   04.03.13 23:09

Hi Brandon,

I checked into the playoff bracketing, and unfortunately it looks like there aren't enough weeks in the season to allow for three playoff rounds. I guess with the shortened schedule this year we'll only have two rounds of playoffs.

That being the case, I would be willing to allow for teams that finish 5th through 8th to keep an extra player. For example,

1st place -- 10 keepers
2nd place -- 11 keepers
3rd place -- 12 keepers
4th place -- 12 keepers
5th to 10th -- 13 keepers

What does everyone else think?

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BeitragThema: Re: change needed   04.03.13 23:38

Oh this is very problematic.

We have our new and exciting method to try out:

Order of Draft and Keeper Totals: The first place team keeps 10 and drafts 10th, second place team keeps 11 and drafts 9th, teams 3-8 hold 12 and will draft according to their standings come the end of playoffs with the better performing teams securing the more valuable picks, and the last two teams will hold 13 and will draft according to the Total Points Against determiner where the team with the lowest TPA is rewarded with the top pick of the draft.

Only prospects that are still eligible for their farm teams in September are excluded from these numbers.

For the September draft, managers must let the commissioner know which players they plan to keep no later than one week before the draft. If they do not, the commissioner will keep the players with the best points totals from the previous season, in descending order.


And here we have a shortened season that has reduced our normal 6 week playoffs to only 4.

I don't like that. We have worked hard to create this new system and I think that there is a way to make it work. Here is what I suggest:

Extend our regular season one additional week. That gives us 11 regular season match ups. Have 8 teams make the playoffs, as we have planned for, and allow 3 rounds in the playoffs, with the rules above. Unfortunately, each round will only be one week long but that is the price we pay for a shortened season. With the new format it will not be just one week and done, should a team happen to lose in R1, as each week is critical due to the roll it plays in draft order. The playoffs will be only three weeks long, but they will be fierce.

That would be my solution to the problem at hand.
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BeitragThema: Re: change needed   04.03.13 23:39

I have taken the liberty of making the above changes with my League Manager Power! I have made the changes not because they are final, but rather so that each GM can go into the Playoff Bracket and have a gander at how things could look like should my solution be adopted. Things can very easily be reversed.
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BeitragThema: Re: change needed   04.03.13 23:53

To be honest, I have run into a little glitch with the schedule. It seems to have automatically given each team a BYE in week 11. Obviously not what we want. I will look this over and see what kind of solution there could be.

If any.
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BeitragThema: Re: change needed   04.03.13 23:57

There is an option there to ''reset matchups''.....

Could be the solution, but it could also "ç()&/" the schedule up.......
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BeitragThema: Re: change needed   05.03.13 0:03

Doing that to the playoffs definitely puts more of a wildcard into the mix, which of course hurts a team like mine the most. One of the reasons we like two weeks for each playoff round is that there is less luck (bad or good) involved.

Instead of changing the playoffs to a one-week format per round, would it not be just as easy to make some tweaks to the drafting rules for next year? And then we can do it your way the following year Greg. To be honest, they are complicated enough that I still don't fully understand them, but you've put so much effort into it that I figured we should give it a try.

My vote would be to keep the playoff rounds at two weeks each, with four teams making the playoffs in this shortened year. This will create much more excitement in the regular season as all those middling teams battle for a playoff birth.
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BeitragThema: Re: change needed   05.03.13 0:07

I just want to say that I'm willing to go with majority rules. Whatever we manage to figure out should be fun. Smile
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BeitragThema: Re: change needed   05.03.13 0:21

I agree with you Matt, I much prefer the two week playoff rounds, that said, I am not sure that it is fair to say that such a format would hurt your team the most. There are so many other variables at work here; such as schedule, match ups, or even injuries that I think it would be hard to assess what the impact could really be.

I would not be against putting a hold on implementing the new drafting rules if we could find some sort of 'tweaks' that a majority of GMs find acceptable. That would require some thinking, but I don't think it would be beyond us.

Now I do want to mention that this new method is not just my baby. I went back and revisited the Poll that we had and the vote was 9-1 in favour of the new format. A resounding Yes, if you will. Moreover (yes, I just used the word moreover), the rules are not the least bit complicated. Here they are once again for your viewing pleasure:

Order of Draft and Keeper Totals: The first place team keeps 10 and drafts 10th, second place team keeps 11 and drafts 9th, teams 3-8 hold 12 and will draft according to their standings come the end of playoffs with the better performing teams securing the more valuable picks, and the last two teams will hold 13 and will draft according to the Total Points Against determiner where the team with the lowest TPA is rewarded with the top pick of the draft.


Now with that off my chest, let's open the floor to our fellow GMs and let the shit fly where it will!

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BeitragThema: Re: change needed   05.03.13 8:52

i don't mind both options.

i guess if i had to pick i would take the one where 8 teams make the playoffs. it seems like that would be a more drastic change then switching the playoffs to one week instead of 2.

im fine with whatever we decide but my vote would be to keep with 8 team making the playoffs.

a 4 team playoff bracket sure would make for an exciting finish for those playoff births!~!!~
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BeitragThema: Re: change needed   05.03.13 9:23

I dont' have a problem with either way.
Only thing that might be an issues, is if we only allow 4 teams to make the playoffs that kinda sucks for the other teams that just missed a playoff spot.
Especially cause we just found out now, really not much of a heads up.
If i was forced to make a decision I would pick 8 teams make playoffs as I think at the point of the schedule we are at, it would be a bit unfair to just let 4 teams make playoffs.
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BeitragThema: Re: change needed   05.03.13 10:42

If changing the playoff format and schedule to accomodate 8 playoff teams becomes too complicated, then perhaps we leave it as ESPN has it and just make these subtle changes.

Teams that finish 1st and 2nd in regular season keep 10 + 5. Teams that finish 3rd and 4th keep 11 + 5. These 4 will draft depending on their playoff finish. Champion picks 10th, runner-up picks 9th, 3rd place picks 8th and 4th picks 7th. OR, we can use the order of finish for the playoff teams to determine their keeper status as well as their draft position.

The remaining non-playoff teams (5-10) will get to keep 12 + 5, with the 9th and 10th regular season finishers keeping and extra prospect. The non-playoff teams will pick in reverse order of the regular season standings.

If you want to make it up to the non-playoff teams in this shortened season, perhaps you let them keep 13 + 5 or 12 + 6.

Just an idea.

good luck co-commishs!

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BeitragThema: Re: change needed   11.03.13 11:02

When is the trade deadline? I'm not sure that the guys that are not top four, would have a chance to try and re-jig, to their benefit, by having just four playoff teams. That seems to be a bit unfair.

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